Comments on: No More Promotional Lenses on Squidoo?? http://www.learnitstepbystep.com/blog/no-more-promotional-lenses-on-squidoo.html Providing Internet Marketing Basics for Beginners Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:18:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Jackie http://www.learnitstepbystep.com/blog/no-more-promotional-lenses-on-squidoo.html/comment-page-1#comment-132 Jackie Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:04:27 +0000 http://www.learnitstepbystep.com/blog/?p=115#comment-132 You should do all your keyword research on your exact keyword phrase. Because this is what you are trying to rank for. The info you get from Google is most important ~ because if you can't beat the competition in Google it doesn't matter how many lenses there is already. The lens competition is like the last bit of information you look at to decide if it is a keyword/niche worth putting your time and effort into. Jackie You should do all your keyword research on your exact keyword phrase. Because this is what you are trying to rank for.

The info you get from Google is most important ~ because if you can’t beat the competition in Google it doesn’t matter how many lenses there is already.

The lens competition is like the last bit of information you look at to decide if it is a keyword/niche worth putting your time and effort into.

Jackie

]]> By: Barbara http://www.learnitstepbystep.com/blog/no-more-promotional-lenses-on-squidoo.html/comment-page-1#comment-131 Barbara Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:54:27 +0000 http://www.learnitstepbystep.com/blog/?p=115#comment-131 Does it make a difference if searching for the broad keyword (the general topic) vs. the actual keyword phrase? In my situation there were still a lot of competing pages with my keyword phrase but I didn't find any squidoo lenses ranking on the first page of Google when I used the broad term or the longtail keyword (with or without quotes.) I decided I'm going to go ahead and complete the campaign if only for the sake of getting one under my belt. It's learn as you go and I figure I just learned something else to add to my keyword research checklist! Thanks for your thoughts on this. Much appreciated!! Does it make a difference if searching for the broad keyword (the general topic) vs. the actual keyword phrase? In my situation there were still a lot of competing pages with my keyword phrase but I didn’t find any squidoo lenses ranking on the first page of Google when I used the broad term or the longtail keyword (with or without quotes.) I decided I’m going to go ahead and complete the campaign if only for the sake of getting one under my belt. It’s learn as you go and I figure I just learned something else to add to my keyword research checklist!

Thanks for your thoughts on this. Much appreciated!!

]]> By: Jackie http://www.learnitstepbystep.com/blog/no-more-promotional-lenses-on-squidoo.html/comment-page-1#comment-130 Jackie Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:59:51 +0000 http://www.learnitstepbystep.com/blog/?p=115#comment-130 I think this was probably not as much of an issue when Jen wrote the book. Remember, she started working in Squidoo when it was a pretty new site and every marketer in the world hadn't found it yet. :) Personally I check the PR for my kw on the first page of google (without quotes) I also look to see if any of the results on the first 2 pages are Squidoo lenses. If they are and there is that many other lenses on the same keyword I would do something different. There are just so many EASY keywords ~ why try to cram a square peg into a round hole when I can just easily find a smaller round peg to slide right in? Jackie I think this was probably not as much of an issue when Jen wrote the book. Remember, she started working in Squidoo when it was a pretty new site and every marketer in the world hadn’t found it yet. :)

Personally I check the PR for my kw on the first page of google (without quotes) I also look to see if any of the results on the first 2 pages are Squidoo lenses.

If they are and there is that many other lenses on the same keyword I would do something different.

There are just so many EASY keywords ~ why try to cram a square peg into a round hole when I can just easily find a smaller round peg to slide right in?

Jackie

]]> By: Andrea http://www.learnitstepbystep.com/blog/no-more-promotional-lenses-on-squidoo.html/comment-page-1#comment-128 Andrea Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:56:54 +0000 http://www.learnitstepbystep.com/blog/?p=115#comment-128 Hmmm well - here's my take on that ... certainly not the last word or anything. Just because there are that many lenses on a topic on Squidoo does not = there are that many optimized for the phrase I'm wanting to rank for. Nor does it mean that the ones that ARE optimized will have as many backlinks as I am willing to put out there. IF when I do a Google search for the phrase I'm looking at there are already Squidoo lenses on page 1, then that's something to be concerned about. I also quickly check page rank for the rest of the page 1 (without quotes) and make sure they add up to less than 30 total (avg pr 3 or lower). Andrea Hmmm well - here’s my take on that … certainly not the last word or anything.

Just because there are that many lenses on a topic on Squidoo does not = there are that many optimized for the phrase I’m wanting to rank for. Nor does it mean that the ones that ARE optimized will have as many backlinks as I am willing to put out there.

IF when I do a Google search for the phrase I’m looking at there are already Squidoo lenses on page 1, then that’s something to be concerned about. I also quickly check page rank for the rest of the page 1 (without quotes) and make sure they add up to less than 30 total (avg pr 3 or lower).

Andrea

]]> By: Barbara http://www.learnitstepbystep.com/blog/no-more-promotional-lenses-on-squidoo.html/comment-page-1#comment-127 Barbara Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:33:44 +0000 http://www.learnitstepbystep.com/blog/?p=115#comment-127 I just read the post that PPG put on her blog about the policy changes at Squidoo and one thing jumped out at me ... "– Are you checking in Google BEFORE you make a lens? Seriously, when you think of a topic, are you going to Google any searching the already indexed lenses that are already on that topic or keyword? Simply go to Google and type in: site:squidoo.com your keyword/your product/your topic/etc If there are already hundreds or thousands of lenses on that keyword or topic, don’t do it." I realized that I didn't do this as part of my campaign prep (I'm working on my first campaign) and when I plugged that thread in with my topic it returned with 3,430 sites. Yikes -- there's more lenses on my topic at Squidoo than there is about diet pills. While my campaign topic is not on the no-no list of topics, I'm wondering if I should scrap my campaign and start over. I don't recall this particular part of suggested research mentioned in OWM or here at LISBS ... am I missing something? I just read the post that PPG put on her blog about the policy changes at Squidoo and one thing jumped out at me … “– Are you checking in Google BEFORE you make a lens? Seriously, when you think of a topic, are you going to Google any searching the already indexed lenses that are already on that topic or keyword?

Simply go to Google and type in:

site:squidoo.com your keyword/your product/your topic/etc

If there are already hundreds or thousands of lenses on that keyword or topic, don’t do it.”

I realized that I didn’t do this as part of my campaign prep (I’m working on my first campaign) and when I plugged that thread in with my topic it returned with 3,430 sites. Yikes — there’s more lenses on my topic at Squidoo than there is about diet pills.

While my campaign topic is not on the no-no list of topics, I’m wondering if I should scrap my campaign and start over. I don’t recall this particular part of suggested research mentioned in OWM or here at LISBS … am I missing something?

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